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	<description>In Defense of &#34;Mere Conservatism&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: Alta35Hurley</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator>Alta35Hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is understandable that cash makes people free. But what to do when someone does not have money? The one way only is to receive the &lt;a href=&quot;http://bestfinance-blog.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;loan&lt;/a&gt; and just car loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is understandable that cash makes people free. But what to do when someone does not have money? The one way only is to receive the <a href="http://bestfinance-blog.com" rel="nofollow">loan</a> and just car loan.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, I meant to address my comment to Bill, not Bob. Sorry for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, I meant to address my comment to Bill, not Bob. Sorry for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My, my, Bob, you sound like one who has been well indoctrinated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who are you to assume Mr. Moeller has &quot;zero, ZERO clue as to the difficulties experienced by non-whites in this culture.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You are the one who sounds arrogant and judgmental. Perhaps, you could begin by looking in the mirror and doing some self-examination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My, my, Bob, you sound like one who has been well indoctrinated.</p>
<p>Who are you to assume Mr. Moeller has &quot;zero, ZERO clue as to the difficulties experienced by non-whites in this culture.&quot;</p>
<p>You are the one who sounds arrogant and judgmental. Perhaps, you could begin by looking in the mirror and doing some self-examination.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was more than fair to Barack Obama and even expressed sympathy for how he landed where he did ideologically and politically.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;------------&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Moeller, let&#039;s have sympathy for how you landed. What a presumptuous statement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Based on your photo you appear to be a person of European descent. Therefore, you have zero, ZERO clue as to the difficulties experienced by non-whites in this culture. What&#039;s this beef that &quot;people of color&quot; just can&#039;t let go? It&#039;s that dominant white powers just don&#039;t get it. Sorry, but you don&#039;t. When someone is in control and living the easy life, it&#039;s quite easy to see life through another prism. We are not victims; we have pushed through despite eons of mistreatment. But we, and I do mean the collective of groups that have been denigrated throughout history, are quite tired of white privilege and its associated arrogance. These groups aren&#039;t racist, just tired of garbage like this. You are the one with the flawed ideologies (not all, just some). I appreciate your attempts but in the end, it&#039;s the typical &quot;I&#039;m better, this person isn&#039;t&quot; mentality that is carried by capitalism&#039;s elites, and they use pawns such as poor, working-class whites to further their own goals. When are the masses going to wake up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I was more than fair to Barack Obama and even expressed sympathy for how he landed where he did ideologically and politically.&quot;<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />Mr. Moeller, let&#39;s have sympathy for how you landed. What a presumptuous statement.</p>
<p>Based on your photo you appear to be a person of European descent. Therefore, you have zero, ZERO clue as to the difficulties experienced by non-whites in this culture. What&#39;s this beef that &quot;people of color&quot; just can&#39;t let go? It&#39;s that dominant white powers just don&#39;t get it. Sorry, but you don&#39;t. When someone is in control and living the easy life, it&#39;s quite easy to see life through another prism. We are not victims; we have pushed through despite eons of mistreatment. But we, and I do mean the collective of groups that have been denigrated throughout history, are quite tired of white privilege and its associated arrogance. These groups aren&#39;t racist, just tired of garbage like this. You are the one with the flawed ideologies (not all, just some). I appreciate your attempts but in the end, it&#39;s the typical &quot;I&#39;m better, this person isn&#39;t&quot; mentality that is carried by capitalism&#39;s elites, and they use pawns such as poor, working-class whites to further their own goals. When are the masses going to wake up?</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous (1:03 PM) wrote: &quot;Whether it&#039;s socialism or healthcare, let&#039;s crunch numbers and learn to understand the psychology of human behavior. Let&#039;s do our best to present information in an unbiased manner. Let&#039;s swallow our pride when we know we&#039;re wrong and try to avoid inherent human narcissim. This is how we learn and progress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have a lot of well thought out, well argued pieces in this blog. You are obviously well-read and have a great understanding of things. Don&#039;t fall into the politics trap. Keep it about the real issues and the evidence backing up your points. We don&#039;t need vague worldview generalizations and clips of Olbermann or Hannity acting ridiculous.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel I must respond to the arrogance inherent in the above post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No vague worldview generalizations were included in your blog, rather the above post is filled with such generalizations. Unfortunately for the poster, I suspect he/she has been indoctrinated him/herself and is blind to the power of a particular political trap and lacks understanding of the true psychology of human behavior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please keep communicating the truth about Obama and other powerful forces that are shaping our culture and realize that in doing so you will receive some ignorant/ arrogant posts--it comes with the territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous (1:03 PM) wrote: &quot;Whether it&#39;s socialism or healthcare, let&#39;s crunch numbers and learn to understand the psychology of human behavior. Let&#39;s do our best to present information in an unbiased manner. Let&#39;s swallow our pride when we know we&#39;re wrong and try to avoid inherent human narcissim. This is how we learn and progress.</p>
<p>You have a lot of well thought out, well argued pieces in this blog. You are obviously well-read and have a great understanding of things. Don&#39;t fall into the politics trap. Keep it about the real issues and the evidence backing up your points. We don&#39;t need vague worldview generalizations and clips of Olbermann or Hannity acting ridiculous.&quot;</p>
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<p>I feel I must respond to the arrogance inherent in the above post.</p>
<p>No vague worldview generalizations were included in your blog, rather the above post is filled with such generalizations. Unfortunately for the poster, I suspect he/she has been indoctrinated him/herself and is blind to the power of a particular political trap and lacks understanding of the true psychology of human behavior.</p>
<p>Please keep communicating the truth about Obama and other powerful forces that are shaping our culture and realize that in doing so you will receive some ignorant/ arrogant posts&#8211;it comes with the territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert J. Moeller</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert J. Moeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have every right to judge my leaders based on their public record, their own memoirs, and 20 years of public service (even if most of it was organizing communities in a neo-Marxist fashion).  I was more than fair to Barack Obama and even expressed sympathy for how he landed where he did ideologically and politically.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone&#039;s worldview matters.  Their philosophy of life and of politics has more to do with how the world works than you might appreciate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for reading.  Keep posting and send me an email (robbymoeller@gmail.com) if you want to converse further.  God bless.</description>
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<p>I have every right to judge my leaders based on their public record, their own memoirs, and 20 years of public service (even if most of it was organizing communities in a neo-Marxist fashion).  I was more than fair to Barack Obama and even expressed sympathy for how he landed where he did ideologically and politically.</p>
<p>Everyone&#39;s worldview matters.  Their philosophy of life and of politics has more to do with how the world works than you might appreciate.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.  Keep posting and send me an email (robbymoeller@gmail.com) if you want to converse further.  God bless.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an arrogant analysis. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone is shaped by the people in their lives. Every child is a product of indoctrination. this article assumes full understanding of the forces shaping Obama&#039;s motives and logic. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The arrogance lies not only in assuming you have a complete grasp on his influencers, but assuming your influences constituent the &quot;correct&quot; worldview. Certainly I can find mentors in your life, exploit them as &quot;radical&quot; and paint a compromising picture of your worldview. This type of dissertation is insulting because it implicitly assumes people can not think for themselves. They are simply unable to keep a completely open mind. Would you say that about yourself? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point is not Obama. These types of articles avoid the issues. Anyone interested in discovering truth looks to a scientific approach on the problems we face.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether it&#039;s socialism or healthcare, let&#039;s crunch numbers and learn to understand the psychology of human behavior. Let&#039;s do our best to present information in an unbiased manner. Let&#039;s swallow our pride when we know we&#039;re wrong and try to avoid inherent human narcissim. This is how we learn and progress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have a lot of well thought out, well argued pieces in this blog. You are obviously well-read and have a great understanding of things. Don&#039;t fall into the politics trap. Keep it about the real issues and the evidence backing up your points. We don&#039;t need vague worldview generalizations and clips of Olbermann or Hannity acting ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an arrogant analysis. </p>
<p>Everyone is shaped by the people in their lives. Every child is a product of indoctrination. this article assumes full understanding of the forces shaping Obama&#39;s motives and logic. </p>
<p>The arrogance lies not only in assuming you have a complete grasp on his influencers, but assuming your influences constituent the &quot;correct&quot; worldview. Certainly I can find mentors in your life, exploit them as &quot;radical&quot; and paint a compromising picture of your worldview. This type of dissertation is insulting because it implicitly assumes people can not think for themselves. They are simply unable to keep a completely open mind. Would you say that about yourself? </p>
<p>The point is not Obama. These types of articles avoid the issues. Anyone interested in discovering truth looks to a scientific approach on the problems we face.</p>
<p>Whether it&#39;s socialism or healthcare, let&#39;s crunch numbers and learn to understand the psychology of human behavior. Let&#39;s do our best to present information in an unbiased manner. Let&#39;s swallow our pride when we know we&#39;re wrong and try to avoid inherent human narcissim. This is how we learn and progress.</p>
<p>You have a lot of well thought out, well argued pieces in this blog. You are obviously well-read and have a great understanding of things. Don&#39;t fall into the politics trap. Keep it about the real issues and the evidence backing up your points. We don&#39;t need vague worldview generalizations and clips of Olbermann or Hannity acting ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent commentary...but I am not sure what Gargbage is (unless it is a typo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent commentary&#8230;but I am not sure what Gargbage is (unless it is a typo).</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can anyone with any common sense and a few historical reference books not see that America was founded on a series of hateful, self-serving principles by outcasts from a dying empire? There were good forefathers, and some with bad intentions. Most were agnostic, not God-fearing Christians as so many would like to believe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am an American and greatly love this country, but I am not deluded by the myths of &quot;freedom&quot; and &quot;democracy&quot; to the point I ignore historical facts, our ill-advised romps around the globe &quot;freeing&quot; everybody from themselves. This is a wonderful nation but it does have a sordid past. While I don&#039;t agree with everything President Obama stands for, I don&#039;t agree with everything that America stands for either. We have been both a boon to global society as well as a scab. We are good and bad. What&#039;s wrong with admitting that and wanting better?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What Wright said was true...our chickens are indeed coming home to roost. And with the behavior of some of these gun-toting racist &quot;true Americans&quot; at these town hall meetings, how else might we be viewed around the world? I&#039;m an NRA member and love shooting. I&#039;m a Christian from the south, but the radical right is truly scaring me, just as much as the radical left. My neighbor in Virginia is a great guy, even with the confederate flag in his rear window. He said to me &quot;You know what, all this healthcare business is really just about that black guy being president and wanting to make us like Europe. It really makes some of us mad, I hear it all the time.&quot; All one can do with that is shake your head and pray things don&#039;t get ugly because of growing fears and xenophobia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can anyone with any common sense and a few historical reference books not see that America was founded on a series of hateful, self-serving principles by outcasts from a dying empire? There were good forefathers, and some with bad intentions. Most were agnostic, not God-fearing Christians as so many would like to believe.</p>
<p>I am an American and greatly love this country, but I am not deluded by the myths of &quot;freedom&quot; and &quot;democracy&quot; to the point I ignore historical facts, our ill-advised romps around the globe &quot;freeing&quot; everybody from themselves. This is a wonderful nation but it does have a sordid past. While I don&#39;t agree with everything President Obama stands for, I don&#39;t agree with everything that America stands for either. We have been both a boon to global society as well as a scab. We are good and bad. What&#39;s wrong with admitting that and wanting better?</p>
<p>What Wright said was true&#8230;our chickens are indeed coming home to roost. And with the behavior of some of these gun-toting racist &quot;true Americans&quot; at these town hall meetings, how else might we be viewed around the world? I&#39;m an NRA member and love shooting. I&#39;m a Christian from the south, but the radical right is truly scaring me, just as much as the radical left. My neighbor in Virginia is a great guy, even with the confederate flag in his rear window. He said to me &quot;You know what, all this healthcare business is really just about that black guy being president and wanting to make us like Europe. It really makes some of us mad, I hear it all the time.&quot; All one can do with that is shake your head and pray things don&#39;t get ugly because of growing fears and xenophobia.</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
		<link>http://rjmoeller.com/2009/08/garbage-in-garbage-out/comment-page-1/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting &amp; thoughtful posts. The seeds of freedom of thought,,,etc. are well planted, &amp; this time in history will look like a period of bad gardening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &amp; thoughtful posts. The seeds of freedom of thought,,,etc. are well planted, &amp; this time in history will look like a period of bad gardening.</p>
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