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		<description>And oh by the way, Barbara, I find young RJ to be FAR more mature and logical in his arguments than you - and I expect I am much closer to your generation than I am to his. If you think his arguments are &quot;flighty&quot;, it would seem to be a good time for you to reacquaint yourself with a dictionary. I believe Webster&#039;s is a good example. I also believe that if you think most women today &quot;vote as their husbands tell them to&quot;, your experience of society is sadly limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And oh by the way, Barbara, I find young RJ to be FAR more mature and logical in his arguments than you &#8211; and I expect I am much closer to your generation than I am to his. If you think his arguments are &#8220;flighty&#8221;, it would seem to be a good time for you to reacquaint yourself with a dictionary. I believe Webster&#8217;s is a good example. I also believe that if you think most women today &#8220;vote as their husbands tell them to&#8221;, your experience of society is sadly limited.</p>
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		<description>An impressive effort, RJ! You give me hope for the next generation, just as all of our young volunteers in the military do. I&#039;m glad that the cynicism and &quot;whatever floats your boat&quot; philosophy of so many baby boomers hasn&#039;t been carried over to all of your generation! I look forward to reading more of your posts!</description>
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		<title>By: RJM</title>
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		<description>Barbara-

Thanks for your comments.  I&#039;m gonna try and respond to some of them in order.

Everyone prefers that other people agree with their life-philosophy.  Prager is not unique in this.  The difference is that Dennis spends three hours a day, five days a week, openly espousing that philosophy and engaging those who disagree.  

You attacked my statements about how it is ridiculous to pretend to be ok with things or people you disagree with if you really don&#039;t.  You are missing the point I fear.  I am not saying that I feel intense pressure to condone other people and their behavior.  I AM saying that there is a pervasive attempt in this country to get people to stop &quot;bickering&quot; and to just accept not only every person, but everything other people do or say or believe.  This is ridiculous.  It is the pro-multiculturalism, relativism of (predominantly) the secular Left.  The big joke is of course that they themselves want you to believe their ideology.  So I am saying we need to stop pretending we disagree and start actively debating and discussing what we specifically disagree on and how we can better co-exist with one another.  Unity is not possible, but humanity and civility are.

I&#039;m not sure what you mean by your critique of my thoughts on compromise.  A balance must be struck between compromise and defending the things you care most about.  For example, I believe in keeping the government out of our lives as much as possible, but I also favor policemen and much of the Patriot Act.  That doesn&#039;t make me unreasonable or hypocritical.  

As far as the process that goes in to voting, it is different for every person.  You seem to be an informed participant in the political process, and that is wonderful to hear.  I am in my mid-20&#039;s and have been eligible to vote for three elections now.  I find that even when I was 18 and not sure about politics and economics and all that goes in to casting a vote that there were forces in my life exerting influences on me.  My faith, my family, my admittedly limited life experiences, etc. all played a part in my support of George W. Bush over Al Gore that year.  Certainly there are dumb people in the country, and people who dont vote, and people who vote straight party line without thinking, and a million other variables.  But even the person who votes &quot;blindly&quot; is still being influenced by other forces besides pure politics on how to vote.    Plus, the point of what I am trying to do is get people (especially those near my own age) to see that we have a duty to vote and be informed and to utilize all these other forces (religion, morality, history, economics, etc) in making the final decision in that process: a vote at the ballot box.  I&#039;m not sure why this is a bad thing.  Would it be better to say &quot;You&#039;re all idiots out there and suckers for partisan hacks so our country is doomed and its all your fault&quot;?  I have hope for my generation.

Next you went after my intent to build a stronger coalition of like-minded voters and citizen-activists....These things I will be writing about in the coming weeks and months are not &quot;RJ&#039;s truth&quot;, they are the ideas, ideals, and values that I have come to find are, in my opinion, the best around.  I believe in them.  I look to wiser men and women in my life and in my studies and throughout history and collect the things I agree with and think are true, good, and beautiful.  Take what I say, or leave it, but I will not feel personally attacked because the truth I believe I&#039;ve found is not my own.  Perhaps you are mad at the ideas, and that is fine.  Share your own.  Start a blog.  Write a book.  I&#039;ll read it and gladly engage you on where I think you are wrong.  I think more Americans share common values than we are led to believe.  I think most of those values could fall under what is today known as &quot;conservatism&quot;, but they can also bleed over into libertarianism or the value-systems of independents and moderates.

My intent is not to convert you to Republican or even conservative...it is describe what I believe is the basic framework of a conservative worldview, and ultimately, to discover and discuss and debate real, hard and objective truths and insights about our world.  That&#039;s all.  

Stick with me and keep responding with your thoughts.  Don&#039;t dismiss me because you have negative experiences with other conservatives or Republicans or whoever.  Thanks and God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara-</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.  I&#8217;m gonna try and respond to some of them in order.</p>
<p>Everyone prefers that other people agree with their life-philosophy.  Prager is not unique in this.  The difference is that Dennis spends three hours a day, five days a week, openly espousing that philosophy and engaging those who disagree.  </p>
<p>You attacked my statements about how it is ridiculous to pretend to be ok with things or people you disagree with if you really don&#8217;t.  You are missing the point I fear.  I am not saying that I feel intense pressure to condone other people and their behavior.  I AM saying that there is a pervasive attempt in this country to get people to stop &#8220;bickering&#8221; and to just accept not only every person, but everything other people do or say or believe.  This is ridiculous.  It is the pro-multiculturalism, relativism of (predominantly) the secular Left.  The big joke is of course that they themselves want you to believe their ideology.  So I am saying we need to stop pretending we disagree and start actively debating and discussing what we specifically disagree on and how we can better co-exist with one another.  Unity is not possible, but humanity and civility are.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by your critique of my thoughts on compromise.  A balance must be struck between compromise and defending the things you care most about.  For example, I believe in keeping the government out of our lives as much as possible, but I also favor policemen and much of the Patriot Act.  That doesn&#8217;t make me unreasonable or hypocritical.  </p>
<p>As far as the process that goes in to voting, it is different for every person.  You seem to be an informed participant in the political process, and that is wonderful to hear.  I am in my mid-20&#8217;s and have been eligible to vote for three elections now.  I find that even when I was 18 and not sure about politics and economics and all that goes in to casting a vote that there were forces in my life exerting influences on me.  My faith, my family, my admittedly limited life experiences, etc. all played a part in my support of George W. Bush over Al Gore that year.  Certainly there are dumb people in the country, and people who dont vote, and people who vote straight party line without thinking, and a million other variables.  But even the person who votes &#8220;blindly&#8221; is still being influenced by other forces besides pure politics on how to vote.    Plus, the point of what I am trying to do is get people (especially those near my own age) to see that we have a duty to vote and be informed and to utilize all these other forces (religion, morality, history, economics, etc) in making the final decision in that process: a vote at the ballot box.  I&#8217;m not sure why this is a bad thing.  Would it be better to say &#8220;You&#8217;re all idiots out there and suckers for partisan hacks so our country is doomed and its all your fault&#8221;?  I have hope for my generation.</p>
<p>Next you went after my intent to build a stronger coalition of like-minded voters and citizen-activists&#8230;.These things I will be writing about in the coming weeks and months are not &#8220;RJ&#8217;s truth&#8221;, they are the ideas, ideals, and values that I have come to find are, in my opinion, the best around.  I believe in them.  I look to wiser men and women in my life and in my studies and throughout history and collect the things I agree with and think are true, good, and beautiful.  Take what I say, or leave it, but I will not feel personally attacked because the truth I believe I&#8217;ve found is not my own.  Perhaps you are mad at the ideas, and that is fine.  Share your own.  Start a blog.  Write a book.  I&#8217;ll read it and gladly engage you on where I think you are wrong.  I think more Americans share common values than we are led to believe.  I think most of those values could fall under what is today known as &#8220;conservatism&#8221;, but they can also bleed over into libertarianism or the value-systems of independents and moderates.</p>
<p>My intent is not to convert you to Republican or even conservative&#8230;it is describe what I believe is the basic framework of a conservative worldview, and ultimately, to discover and discuss and debate real, hard and objective truths and insights about our world.  That&#8217;s all.  </p>
<p>Stick with me and keep responding with your thoughts.  Don&#8217;t dismiss me because you have negative experiences with other conservatives or Republicans or whoever.  Thanks and God bless.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yep, there you go wanting to insinuate “what [you] believe the core, basic tenets of conservatism to be” as the guideline. Why are your tenets better than any others?&quot;

The reason conservatives believe their opinions are better than liberals, is because conservatism is how the greatest country in the world got started, and liberalism is how socialism got started.  If you don&#039;t think your opinion is better than one that opposes yours, why have an opinion at all?

Conservatives say, &quot;some opinions are better (or much better) than other opinions, so we have to seek the policies that have worked best in the past.  I do not deny your right to have an opinion and I won&#039;t deny my right to say it&#039;s bad.&quot;  Liberals say, &quot;all opinions are equally good, unless they are contradict with mine, in which case they are worse.&quot;  The irony is, in the end, we are saying the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yep, there you go wanting to insinuate “what [you] believe the core, basic tenets of conservatism to be” as the guideline. Why are your tenets better than any others?&#8221;</p>
<p>The reason conservatives believe their opinions are better than liberals, is because conservatism is how the greatest country in the world got started, and liberalism is how socialism got started.  If you don&#8217;t think your opinion is better than one that opposes yours, why have an opinion at all?</p>
<p>Conservatives say, &#8220;some opinions are better (or much better) than other opinions, so we have to seek the policies that have worked best in the past.  I do not deny your right to have an opinion and I won&#8217;t deny my right to say it&#8217;s bad.&#8221;  Liberals say, &#8220;all opinions are equally good, unless they are contradict with mine, in which case they are worse.&#8221;  The irony is, in the end, we are saying the same thing.</p>
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