Comments on: Students made to sing about health care http://rjmoeller.com/2009/10/students-made-to-sing-about-health-care/ In Defense of "Mere Conservatism" Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:42:11 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Chris Sabo http://rjmoeller.com/2009/10/students-made-to-sing-about-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-1262 Chris Sabo Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:52:02 +0000 http://rjmoeller.com/?p=1115#comment-1262 Let's all just admit this is pretty creepy. The part I don't get is when they talk about long lines... If they're so worried about line-length, why would you want Obama's healthcare plan? Line length will quadruple instantly. Smart lookin' outfits. Not sure about the lyrics... Let’s all just admit this is pretty creepy.

The part I don’t get is when they talk about long lines… If they’re so worried about line-length, why would you want Obama’s healthcare plan? Line length will quadruple instantly.

Smart lookin’ outfits. Not sure about the lyrics…

]]> By: Bradford http://rjmoeller.com/2009/10/students-made-to-sing-about-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-1261 Bradford Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:23:35 +0000 http://rjmoeller.com/?p=1115#comment-1261 Hey Larry and Gilmore. In my opinion and observation, many people (including myself) see Obama as an embodiment of America as a country moving beyond partisanship, especially during such trying times as these: crazy deficit, two wars, financial collapse, foreclosures, etc. Do I, or many people, regard Obama as a messiah? Absolutely not! We were sold hope--and I think he's delivering on some fronts. Even after he is gone, hopefully we can all retain this sentiment. This current climate is cause by how polarizing President Bush was. He had his fans, and he had many enemies. It's a different climate when you have a newly elected president who many people desperately want to be the help America be the phoenix from the ashes. To answer you question, Larry, I don't agree with a lot of things Obama has done/is doing. One of my biggest faults with him is his opinion on Abortion. But does that stop me from understanding and even being reverent of the circumstances of his election, the weight of the occasion? Naw... (note: I disagree with most of your examples. But not fight desired here). To the person who can't understand the hype about color, just be respectful of others and the history of this great nation. my .02 Hey Larry and Gilmore. In my opinion and observation, many people (including myself) see Obama as an embodiment of America as a country moving beyond partisanship, especially during such trying times as these: crazy deficit, two wars, financial collapse, foreclosures, etc. Do I, or many people, regard Obama as a messiah? Absolutely not! We were sold hope–and I think he’s delivering on some fronts. Even after he is gone, hopefully we can all retain this sentiment.

This current climate is cause by how polarizing President Bush was. He had his fans, and he had many enemies. It’s a different climate when you have a newly elected president who many people desperately want to be the help America be the phoenix from the ashes.

To answer you question, Larry, I don’t agree with a lot of things Obama has done/is doing. One of my biggest faults with him is his opinion on Abortion. But does that stop me from understanding and even being reverent of the circumstances of his election, the weight of the occasion? Naw… (note: I disagree with most of your examples. But not fight desired here).

To the person who can’t understand the hype about color, just be respectful of others and the history of this great nation.

my .02

]]> By: Gilmore Guys http://rjmoeller.com/2009/10/students-made-to-sing-about-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-1260 Gilmore Guys Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:02:54 +0000 http://rjmoeller.com/?p=1115#comment-1260 I get where Bradford is coming from, and even thought I am white myself, I do appreciate the importance of the first black president. However, as Larry alluded to above, Martin Luther King's dream was a country where men were judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. I know quoting MLK doesn't end the debate or anything, but if that is a standard by which all Americans should be judging one another, no skin color should be judging any other skin color (even their own....especially their own) by anything but the content of their character and their public actions. I get where Bradford is coming from, and even thought I am white myself, I do appreciate the importance of the first black president. However, as Larry alluded to above, Martin Luther King’s dream was a country where men were judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. I know quoting MLK doesn’t end the debate or anything, but if that is a standard by which all Americans should be judging one another, no skin color should be judging any other skin color (even their own….especially their own) by anything but the content of their character and their public actions.

]]> By: Larry The Comcast Guy http://rjmoeller.com/2009/10/students-made-to-sing-about-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-1259 Larry The Comcast Guy Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:36:42 +0000 http://rjmoeller.com/?p=1115#comment-1259 I echo Bradford's thoughts...but I only agree with you RJ. I of course am happy to live in a country where a minority can reach the highest ranks of power...but what if that first one who does is found to be completely over-his-head and a firm believer in many things I couldnt disagree with more (i.e. abortion, wealth distribution, appeasement of our enemies, preposterous health care "reforms", etc.)? Should I still be super excited because of his skin color? Isn't that just reverse discrimination? Isn't that just blind allegiance to melanin in your skin instead of the truth? I'm not trying to pick a fight Bradford, but if how would someone like you who supports President Obama respond to those questions? And one more thing...parents allowing their kids to sing anthems to a mortal man simply because of his skin color doesn't make it any better in my opinion. Thanks for engaging me on this. I echo Bradford’s thoughts…but I only agree with you RJ. I of course am happy to live in a country where a minority can reach the highest ranks of power…but what if that first one who does is found to be completely over-his-head and a firm believer in many things I couldnt disagree with more (i.e. abortion, wealth distribution, appeasement of our enemies, preposterous health care “reforms”, etc.)? Should I still be super excited because of his skin color? Isn’t that just reverse discrimination? Isn’t that just blind allegiance to melanin in your skin instead of the truth? I’m not trying to pick a fight Bradford, but if how would someone like you who supports President Obama respond to those questions?

And one more thing…parents allowing their kids to sing anthems to a mortal man simply because of his skin color doesn’t make it any better in my opinion. Thanks for engaging me on this.

]]> By: Bradford http://rjmoeller.com/2009/10/students-made-to-sing-about-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-1258 Bradford Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:13:23 +0000 http://rjmoeller.com/?p=1115#comment-1258 Hey, Robbie. I agree with and disagree with this post. The videos of children singing are a little offsetting. However! I remember reading somewhere that the choir was not mandatory, and the children had explicit permission from their parents to participate. If this is the case, I have not fault with their expression. As for 'adults caught up in Obamania,' I don't find it shocking. At all. You must understand the weight of the occasion--and the extreme pride that many people (whites, black, and brown) have. Unlike Reagan, there were not 39 predecessor, color carbon copies before him. You make the mistake of comparing Obama, who is in his honeymoon stage, to the popularity of other presidents while we are still at the epicenter of the occasion's greatness. Twenty years from now...things will not be the same. Of course. I would advise you to just bear it and wait it out. I feel that we forgot what it was like to have an extremely popular president. Hey, Robbie. I agree with and disagree with this post. The videos of children singing are a little offsetting. However! I remember reading somewhere that the choir was not mandatory, and the children had explicit permission from their parents to participate. If this is the case, I have not fault with their expression.

As for ‘adults caught up in Obamania,’ I don’t find it shocking. At all. You must understand the weight of the occasion–and the extreme pride that many people (whites, black, and brown) have. Unlike Reagan, there were not 39 predecessor, color carbon copies before him. You make the mistake of comparing Obama, who is in his honeymoon stage, to the popularity of other presidents while we are still at the epicenter of the occasion’s greatness. Twenty years from now…things will not be the same. Of course.

I would advise you to just bear it and wait it out. I feel that we forgot what it was like to have an extremely popular president.

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